Background Checks Reimagined
I was talking to a fellow Libertarian about the recent gun
debate and we both agreed we were sick of hearing all the standard rhetoric
that comes from every side of the debate.
So I asked a simple question: What would be the Libertarian answer? In an ideal Libertarian society, what could
we do to help prevent these tragedies?
Now, some of the standard answers came up that you’ve heard
a hundred times: get rid of gun free zones; give people the option to defend
themselves; banning things doesn’t actually work; due process matters; etc,
etc.
But then I wondered, should there still be a kind of
background check system that could potentially prevent someone who is intent on
doing harm to themselves or others from buying a gun? What would that even look like in a
Libertarian world? Such a system would
need to be voluntary. Libertarians
really don’t like being forced to participate in anything. It would need to be temporary; a mistake in
your youth should not restrict your rights as an adult. Finally, it would need to be easily
reversible. As my friend and I discussed
it further, we kind of imagined the way this system would work. I present it to you here as food for thought. I do not claim it’s the perfect Libertarian
solution, or even that it will solve our violence problem. It may not have prevented the recent tragedy,
but it may have prevented others. I
simply want to inspire a different kind of conversation on the topic.
A Voluntary Free Market Style System
What we came up with is a voluntary background check
system. Ideally, it should be run by a
nonprofit or a coalition of private sector industries, NOT the government. There is no reason the NSSF, NRA, GOA and
others couldn’t come together to fund a database. These organizations have a vested interest in
preventing gun violence while also protecting people’s rights, thus making it
less susceptible to government corruption.
Perhaps instead of forcing individuals to use an archaic and burdensome
system, we should make it so easy to use that there is no reason for them not
to. Such a system would be allowed to
grow and evolve in a Free Market. Gun
sellers at gun shows could have an app on their phone to deliver necessary
information about a potential buyer within just a few seconds.
The managing organization would authorize access to the
database, granting read access to pretty much anyone who wants to see it, and
write access to only those that should be allowed to “red flag” an
individual. It seems very likely this
should be restricted to medical professionals, intelligence agencies, maybe
even firearm retailers themselves, and those who are qualified to say someone
might be a danger to themselves or others.
I’m not sure local law enforcement should have the ability to “flag”
someone in this manner. Rather, they
should adhere to the due process needed to restrict someone’s rights.
One of the problems with our current system is its binary
nature. Either you CAN buy a gun or you
CAN’T—there is no in between. The new
system should be gradient, allowing a seller to potentially see whether you
“should” be buying a gun or not, in addition to whether you have lost that
right through due process (which is all our current system shows).
For example, if someone is experiencing violent thoughts or
tendencies, their mental healthcare professional could “flag” them in the
system for a maximum of 6 months. That
means that after a 6 month “hold” the flag automatically expires and goes away. It is in no way permanent, although a new
flag could be added. At minimum this
would prompt a flagger to review their assessment every 6 months and act if
they feel a threat is still present.
That flag also DOES NOT prevent gun store owners from selling that
person a gun. What it does do is give
that gun store owner informed consent.
They can choose to sell someone a firearm or not, that is up to
them. The entire system is voluntary and
open. Individuals should be allowed to
check the database to see if they currently have a flag. In addition, there
should be a review process that makes it possible to remove such a flag. In
this new system, no authorized flagger is required to flag people, with the
exception of people who are lawfully forbidden from owning a gun.
We talked through two examples to see how this might affect
people in two very different circumstances.
Say there is an individual who lost their family around Christmas
time. Their mental health professional
might flag them in the system just long enough to expire after the new
year. That person gets emotionally low
and decides to buy a gun. The gun shop
owner sees the flag and sees that it expires after the first of the year. No personal information is available, as that
would be an invasion of privacy. But
that store owner might ask a few more questions of his customer than
normal. “Are you looking forward to
Christmas?” “Spending time with the
family?” etc. These questions are likely
to get answers that indicate this person is currently not in a good place
mentally. The retailer can now make an
informed decision on whether selling that person a firearm right now is
proper. I believe most would likely
refuse.
Another example might be an abused spouse. Let’s say they made the list because couples
counseling has revealed violence in the home.
To be on the safe side, the councilor added both people to the
list. Again, our gun store owner is
probably prompted to pay special attention to this person and ask a lot of
questions. Perhaps the husband starts
talking about how angry he is his wife left with the kids. He’s likely to say some things that may not
sit right with the gun store owner. On
the other hand, the wife may answer those same questions differently. Expressing a need to protect herself and her
children from an abusive husband. Can
people lie? Sure. But the gun store owner can now make a more
informed decision about whether or not to sell this individual a firearm at
this moment in time.
On the other side of that coin, if a retailer knowingly sells
a firearm to someone with 5 or 6 flags in the system, then they may have some
culpability in any tragedy that follows.
If the seller sees several flags on an individual’s background check
(each put there by a different source), I believe it would make a difference to
the retailer. A system like this allows
for that to be judged on a case by case basis, rather than passing a blanket
law punishing all retailers regardless of circumstance. Just to be clear on my personal stance, I
think those instances of possible negligence should be handled in civil courts,
not criminal courts. Either way, our
current system does not give the retailer enough information to make such a
judgement call, and therefore current attempts to hold them accountable are
misplaced.
I believe such a gradient system could save lives. I think having it maintained voluntarily
through the private sector will be better maintained, more user friendly, and
far superior to the government-maintained list.
Those who are authorized to add “flags” to the system should be
restricted and closely controlled by the agency maintaining the database and
should never be forced to report anyone. Making the list free and available to
anyone would allow private sellers the ability to perform a check without any
undue burden, thus voluntarily expanding background checks and allowing
retailers to vet their customers. The
temporary nature of all “flags” being capped at only a 6-month timeframe allows
more freedom to both add people to the list and for individuals on the list to
not be unreasonably compromised indefinitely, unlike secret government
watchlists. The repeals process should
be quick, easy, and confidential.
This is not a perfect solution. It will not stop violence. People who want to hurt other people will
always find a way. Part of this
discussion also needs to be about how we get help for those people. This kid in Florida sent up every red flag there was,
and everyone all up and down the line failed to help him. One person in his life could have made the
difference by stepping up and getting him the help that he so clearly
needed. That having been said, I’d
rather see a system like this one implemented rather than expansion of the
current mandatory government-run background system or the implementation of a
secret government watchlist like “No fly, No buy”.

A private organization should never govern the people (period). Corruption in the government is bad enough. Could you imagine if Remington decided to host this database?? Non for profits and coalitions of private sector folks are always controlled by the swing of the mighty dollar. Besides, employers might want to look at that database and see if their new hire might be on the naughty list and then we are supporting another felon who can't get a job.
ReplyDeleteI know lesser government is the Libertarian way of life, but a simple yes/no for gun ownership is needed for many reasons. I know many a shop owner that would love to "ignore" your flags for a couple hundred a flag... I know in the land of Libertarian, the law suite is always the answer, but I know a good lawyer that could get me out of why that guy had 500 flags and I let him race...
Here's the current form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download
ReplyDeleteHow about this, make the government do it's job (clean up what is dropped in):
A path to a Gun License.
1. File for a permit. This will allow a person to carry and train at the proper facilities or with another licensed individual, not to own or conceal a weapon. The permit starts the vetting process, all background checks needed are completed. State ID/SOC required, finger prints, federal/state/local background check. Any flags? Gets an ATF review. So fill out that form above (only in PDF form that uploads to a database), all the stuff is ran, the ATF reviews it like they do now, anyone unlawfully filling out this form blah blah blah same things only easier found..
2. Get your physician to sign off you are physically and mentally capable of wielding a deadly weapon. Currently this is what holds you back:
Question 11.f. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective:
A determination by a court,
board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked
subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease: (1) is
a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or
manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court
in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not
guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.
Now this one is the hardest, I think if you go into this evaluation and fail, you should have the ability to get treatment and try again. So if your doc says "nope" you should have the ability to go back to get a "yup". Even the thought of someone saying this is too hard to accomplish, also would fail this test.
3. Take mandatory training classes. This can be done at certified ranges, with the variety of guns under the control of the training facility. Those facilities can then test those individual on safety and accuracy. Those places would ensure that person is well versed on a variety of weapons and understanding as to why they need to be treated with utmost respect. Then that facility would certify you to get your license. Like the written and driving test you take for your vehicle.
Fail on any of those things, sorry, no guns.
Pass all three checks and you get a "Gun License"..
So, now you go to the store to buy a gun. The shop owner scans your card, sells you the gun and registers the gun to your license and off you go. The shop owner still has the right to refuse you the sale (you are drunk or acting a fool) just like they can now.
ReplyDeleteThe wait period ends if your card works, you are good to go, if your card is in any way broken, you don't. Gun stores don't have to have an inventory hold (something that costs them plenty currently) and you get the satisfaction of walking away with your brand new purchase!
You sell that gun to a private individual, you go to a gun shop or registered dealer to certify the transaction. It's a win/win!
You can go to a gun show and scan your card on the way in, perform transfers on your way out! Woo Hoo!
Someone steals your card, you report it stolen, the criminal goes to buy a gun, the police are dispatched to the site of the sale for apprehension..
How do you keep people from building a mass of guns? You don't! You make them responsible for the collection. When the police get a call to your house for a break in, they know how many guns you have because well, it's on your license. They make sure to check out the collection while doing the investigation and if any are missing, a fine for all "missing" guns placed on the individual until they are "found". Then those weapons go on a list of things lost/stolen which now can be traced if sold to pawn shops or the like (auctions, individual sales, blah blah blah). All "found" guns are destroyed and removed from the original weapons owner then refunded that amount minus some sort of fee. I'm sure the ATF already investigates if you buy more than so many weapons anyway, this way the proper information is at the disposal to all law enforcement at a moments notice.
I would like a place where "responsible" gun owners, don't come crying to me when they get their gun stolen because they left it under their seat, or sitting by the back door, or displayed in their truck, or anywhere else criminals get guns. Lock your guns up when not in use. In the gun safe you should have. Not trigger locks that can be picked off later. If you don't have a gun safe, they now sell versions that unlock like your phone or with your phone. That phone can also call the authorities when you have a break in.
Do something that breaks those three checks above after you gain the license, sorry, no guns.
Yup, gain a felony = lose your guns, beat your wife/husband/children = lose your guns, treated for depression = lose your guns (temporarily at least, maybe gun shops could offer gun locker rental or something for that space they are gaining back from all those holds) , threaten shooting of any public place = lose your guns, cops come out to your house because you are being an asshole to the neighborhood = lose your guns (maybe there can be a temporary no flag be placed on the person or something)..
You get where I'm going on this.. right? Making responsible gun ownership.. Responsible.
- Liberal Bastard.
The problem with a binary system is it causes a lack of reporting. People are reluctant to remove someone's rights permanently. And as for a non-profit running the database, it'd be in their bets interest to provide a quality product as where government has no incentive to provide a quality product (see current system for an example of that).
ReplyDeleteAlso note: this system does NOT eliminate the current system that does remove people's rights after due process. This system supplements that one.
ReplyDeleteThe premise to your argument is that the right for a person to defend themselves is a positive right, a privilege to be granted to the select few at the governments discretion. Where Libertarians believe a persons right to defend themselves is a negative inherent right that does not require anyone's permission. That is the foundation of our disagreement here.
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